In his description of the sense of Jewish self-identity that preceded Christianity, Boyarin has forgotten a key element in that sense of self-identity. The Jewish people did not just see themselves merely as a community; they saw themselves as a community that stands in a special relationship with God. Obviously, some Jews took this relationship more seriously than did others, but being a Jew meant being tied up with God.
Then Brown goes on to one of the most staggering arguments in this five volume series (and there are no shortage of these): “Or consider this parable of Jesus, one that proved to be incredibly prophetic just forty years after his death and resurrection: “Listen to another parable: there was a landowner who planted a vineyard, he put a wall around it, dug a winepress in it and built a watchtower.
In response to Dr. Brown’s response ( https://yourphariseefriend.wordpress.com/2016/10/23/dr-bros-response-to-comment-429/ ) Dr. Brown The purpose of this dialogue is that we put our respective arguments out in the open, so the public can see them and judge for themselves
Rabbi Blumenthal, Here is my much-belated response to your post # 429 https://yourphariseefriend.wordpress.com/2013/02/15/post-429/ on an old thread https://yourphariseefriend.wordpress.com/2012/01/23/written-debate-with-dr-brown/ on the old Line of Fire website. I have included your post throughout in italics
Oh How Tricky They Are! My Jewish education was not what it should have been. Oh yes I went to Hebrew School from age 5 to my Bar Mitzvah.I was brought up an Orthodox Jew but I knew almost nothing as far as our Tanach was concerned.
Aaron, Once again, you display the importance of not ripping a part of Tanach out of the whole work. As I was working through reading this weekend’s messages, I could hardly believe that you considered the child of Isaiah 7, Emmanuel, to be Jesus or whatever you call him. Even a passing reading of Isaiah 7 will show that Isaiah cannot be talking about Jesus
Are We Them? Some of us find ourselves in societies which place much emphasis on human dignity and the rights of the individual
1 . Page 4 Brown addresses Maimonides’ statement that Jews must believe in God as an “only one (- absolute unity): “There is no doubt that this reaction was due to exaggerated, unbiblical, “Christian” beliefs that gave Jews the impression Christians worshipped three gods.” Brown would have his readers believe that Maimonides’ statement is a “reaction